2008 Honda Accord SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT DURING ROUTINE INSPECTION, A TECHNICIAN CONCLUDED THAT THE REAR BRAKE SYSTEM NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. HE THEN ADDED THAT BRAKE FAILURE IS COMMON WITH HIS MODEL TYPE AND YEAR. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED AT AN EXPENSE OF $ $251.18. THE FAILURE AND THE CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 25,600. UPDATED 10/21/09 *BF UPDATED 10/22/09.*JB

WHILE HAVING MY 2008 ON THE ACCORD ES IN FOR ITS ANNUAL INSPECTION THE DEALER INFORMED ME THAT MY REAR BRAKE PADS HAD WORN TO THE POINT WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MILEAGE OF A VEHICLE AT THIS TIME WAS 22,000 MILES. WHEN I COMMENTED TO THE DEALER THAT THIS SEEMED LIKE EXORBITANT WEAR CONSIDERING THE VEHICLE WAS DRIVEN 80% HIGHWAY DURING NON-RUSH-HOUR THEY REPLIED THAT THIS TYPE OF WEAR WAS NORMAL FOR THIS MAKE MODEL AND YEAR VEHICLE. AFTER SOME QUICK RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET I DISCOVERED THAT MY ISSUE IS NOT UNIQUE. FORTUNATELY I HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. MY CONCERN STEMS FROM THE MANY CONSUMERS WHO DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SYSTEMS AND THEREBY MAY BE PLACING THEMSELVES AT GREAT RISK. *TR

BRAND NEW HONDA ACCORD 2008 NEEDS BRAKES AT 16,000 MILES, MY WIFE AND MY KIDS I FEEL THEY ARE NOT SAFE, IF AT 16,000 MILES THE BRAKES NEED TO BE CHANGED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER ISSUES I MAY FACE LATER ON. I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE BRAKE SYSTEM, AND AS WE KNOW THAT BRAKE SYSTEM IS SAFETY NUMBER 1 IN CARS. *TR

I HAVE A 2008 HONDA ACCORD LX WITH ONLY 17,800 MI. I HEARD MY BRAKES SQUEAL AND BROUGHT IT IN TO THE HONDA DEALERSHIP FOR INSPECTION. I WAS INFORMED MY REAR BRAKE PADS WERE WORN AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THAT IS ABSURD SINCE 90% OF MY DRIVING IS ON THE HIGHWAY. THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO BECAUSE HONDA SHOULD NOT BE PRODUCING A CAR THAT NEEDS BRAKE REPLACEMENT EVERY 18K. *TR

I TOOK MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD INTO THE DEALER FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AT 22K MILES. I LATER RECEIVED A CALL THAT THE FRONT BRAKES WERE FINE AT ABOUT 8MM, BUT THE REAR BRAKES ARE UNDER 3MM AND THAT THEY FALL OUTSIDE THE MARYLAND REQUIREMENT AND THUS NEED TO BE REPLACED. FOR MOST OF THE PAST YEAR THE BRAKES HAVE SQUEAKED. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10K AND 14K MILES THEY RESURFACED THE BRAKE ROTORS AT NO COST TO REMOVE THE SQUEAK. THE REAR BRAKE PADS HAVE TO BE REPLACED. I HAVE NEVER HAD TO REPLACE BRAKE PADS ANYWHERE NEAR THAT LOW MILEAGE FOR ANY OF THE PREVIOUS CARS I HAVE OWNED. HONDA SHOULD RECALL THIS BRAKE SYSTEM. *TR

REAR BRAKES HAVE WORN SEVERELY AND PREMATURELY. ONCE AT 20,000 MILES AND THE SECOND AT 40,000 MILES. BOTH TIMES THE BRAKES WERE CLOSE TO TOTAL FAILURE. BRAKES HAD TO BE TOTALLY REPLACED TWICE. DRIVING WAS UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS AND THERE WERE NO INDICATIONS OF WEAR OR FAILURE UNTIL THE END. THIS IS A VERY COMMON OCCURRENCE WITH THIS MODEL CAR ('08 HONDA ACCORD). *TR

I BOUGHT 2008 HONDA 2008 IN FEB 2008, REPLACED REAR PADS IN OCT 2008 AT 22,000 MILES. I SPOKE W/ SERVICE DEPARTMENT WHERE I BOUGHT MY CAR. HE TOLD ME THEY ARE HAVING ALOT OF PROBLEMS W/ THE 2008 ACCORD'S REAR BRAKES AND THAT IT WAS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. HAD TO BUY NEW PADS FROM DEALER (B/C NO AFTERMARKETS WERE AVAILABLE). IN SEP 2009, SQUEAKING FROM THE REAR BRAKES AGAIN, REAR PADS NEEDED TO BE REPLACED AT 41,000 MILES. WENT TO DEALERSHIP AGAIN TO COMPLAIN, SERVICE MANAGER SAID THAT THEY WERE AN INDEPENDENT FRANCHISE AND THAT HONDA WOULD HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF MY PROBLEM. HE ALSO STATED THAT HONDA WAS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND THEY WERE RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM. CALLED HONDA CORPORATION AND THE CASE INVESTIGATOR SAID THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE SERVICE MANAGER. I WENT TO THE NHTSA WEB SITE AND SAW THAT I AM NOT ALONE. IT APPEARS THAT HONDA AND ITS EMPLOYEES ARE TOWING THE COMPANY LINE AND STONEWALLING THE CONSUMER, BECAUSE IT WILL COST THEM MONEY AND HURT THEIR REPUTATION. THE NHTSA NEEDS TO FORCE HONDA TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND FIX THE PROBLEM BEFORE SOMEONE IS INJURED OR EVEN WORSE, KILLED. THESE ARE BRAKES, THE MOST IMPORTANT SAFETY DEVICE ON ANY CAR. *TR

BRAKE SYSTEM WEAR PREMATURE AT 14,000 MILES. FRONT ROTORS WARPED AND REAR BRAKE PADS DEPLETED. *TR

I PURCHASED A 2008 HONDA ACCORD COUPE FROM HONDA OF SUPERSTITION SPRINGS IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA IN JANUARY 2008. I HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THE VEHICLE UP UNTIL NOW. I RECENTLY MOVED TO ROCK SPRINGS, WYOMING AND STARTED HEARING A STRANGE NOISE WHEN I DROVE MY VEHICLE, SO I TOOK IT IN TO GET LOOKED AT. I CAME TO FIND, THAT MY VEHICLE, WITH ONLY 20,000 MILES ON IT, NEEDED A NEW REAR BRAKE JOB. ROTORS AND PADS. THIS COST ME $496. THE SERVICE ADVISOR TOLD ME HE HAS SEEN OTHER VEHICLES OF THE SAME YEAR AND MODEL WITH THE SAME ISSUE.HONDA WOULD NOT COVER THIS UNDER WARRANTY. I CALLED MY PREVIOUS SERVICE ADVISOR IN PHOENIX, AND HE TOLD ME HE HAS SEEN THE SAME ISSUE ON NEWER ACCORDS. FRONT BRAKES ARE SUPPOSED TO GO FIRST, BUT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE IF NEWER ACCORD OWNERS HAVE TO DROP THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO THEIR NEW VEHICLE FOR A COMPLETE REAR BRAKE JOB AT SUCH LOW MILEAGE. *TR

2008 HONDA ACCORD EX: AT 27,500 MILES, THE REAR BRAKE PADS WERE WORN COMPLETELY DOWN TO THE METAL BACKING PLATE. THE FRONT PADS SHOWED NORMAL WEAR, WHEN INSPECTED DURING A TIRE REPLACEMENT. THE CAR IS USED FOR COMMUTING TO WORK DAILY, 25 MILES EACH WAY, OVER A MIX OF IN TOWN STREETS AND FREEWAY DRIVING. THIS WEAR IN THE REAR BRAKES IS EXCESSIVE AND REQUIRED REPLACEMENT, BUT WAS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. A REAR BRAKE FAILURE COULD CAUSE AN ACCIDENT BY CAUSING AN INCREASE IN STOPPING DISTANCE. *TR

MY REAR BRAKES WORE OUT PREMATURELY ON MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD AT AROUND 18K MILES. HONDA NEEDS TO ISSUE A RECALL ON THIS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE DEALERSHIP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE PROBLEM CONSISTENTLY EXISTS. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT SHE HEARD SQUEAKING WHEN APPLYING PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL, AND THEN THE VEHICLE BEGAN TO SHAKE. THE BREAK FAILURE COULD LEAD TO INCREASED STOPPING DISTANCES, WHICH INCREASED THE RISK OF A VEHICLE CRASH. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER AND A TECHNICIAN REPLACED THE REAR BRAKE PADS. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 19,800 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 20,700.

BRAKE PAD FAILURE. *TR

I BOUGHT A 2008 HONDA ACCORD EX-L V6 COUPE, AND AFTER ONLY 13,000 OR SO MILES I BEGAN HEARING A TERRIBLE METAL ON METAL SCRAPING NOISE COMING FROM THE REAR WHEEL WELL. I CONTACTED MY LOCAL HONDA DEALER WHO INDICATED THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM IN THIS MAKE AND MODEL CAR, BUT THAT IT WAS NOT ON RECALL "YET". AFTER ONE DAY OF DRIVING WITH THE NOISE I FELT A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE IN MY VEHICLE'S BREAKING AND HIGHWAY DRIVING. I INFORMED THE DEALER OF THIS AND WAS TOLD THAT ANY ABNORMAL BRAKE WEAR WILL EFFECT MY VEHICLES STABILITY ASSIST SYSTEM (SAS) WHICH CONTROLS THE VEHICLE'S TRACTION, SPEED, ACCELERATION, ETC.. WHEN I TOOK MY CAR INTO A REPAIR SHOP (NOT THE DEALER DUE TO THEIR ABSORBENT PRICES) THEY NOTIFIED ME THAT MY REAR INTERIOR BRAKEPAD WAS WORN DOWN TO THE INDICATORS. UNFORTUNATELY I HAD TO PAY OUT OF POCKET TO GET THIS FIXED BECAUSE HONDA INFORMED ME THIS WAS NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT IS A KNOWN DEFECT THEY ARE NOT COVERING THE COST BECAUSE A RECALL IS NOT IN PLACE YET. I HAVE CHECKED SEVERAL CONSUMER WEBSITES WHEREIN THIS HAS BEEN NOTED AS A CONTINUOUS PROBLEM WITH THIS MAKE AND MODEL VEHICLE. EVERY 12,000-15,000 MILES OR SO THE REAR BRAKE PADS WEAR OUT PREMATURELY. I AM CONCERNED DUE TO THE RAPID PACE THAT THE BRAKE PADS WEAR OUT AT AND AM FEARFUL THAT MY VEHICLE (AND OTHERS LIKE IT) WILL LOOSE STABILITY AND RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT IF THIS PROBLEM IS NOT RESOLVED. THE DEALERSHIPS MAKE EXCUSES FOR THIS PROBLEM AND WHEN CONTACTING HONDA AMERICA THEY ACT AS IF THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE PROBLEM BEFORE. CARCOMPLAINTS.COM HAS 350 COMPLAINTS AND COUNTING AS OF 7/9/09 SO I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT HONDA AMERICA HAS NEVER BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS PROBLEM. I SAVED MY OLD PARTS AND THE RECEIPT/INVOICE FROM THE REPAIR PLACE I WENT TO AND AM EXPECTING A RECALL TO BE ISSUED (EVENTUALLY) SO THAT I AS WELL AS HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF OTHERS CAN BE REIMBURSED FOR THIS UNNECESSARY EXPENSE. DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO DIE TO GET A RECALL ?! *TR

2008 HONDA ACCORD EXL-V6 4 DOOR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - 8,310 CURRENT MILEAGE THE 2008 HONDA ACCORD BRAKE SYSTEM IS DEFECTIVE...SEE COMPLAINTS HTTP://WWW.CARCOMPLAINTS.COM/HONDA/ACCORD/2008/BRAKES/PREMATURE_BRAKE_WEAR.SHTML I BOUGHT MY CAR BRAND NEW ON 08/20/08. WITHIN MONTHS OF THE PURCHASE THE FRONT BRAKES WERE REPLACED AND NOW THE REAR BRAKES HAVE A CONTINUOUS SQUEALING SOUND. I BROUGHT THE CAR IN FOR SERVICE BUT THE SERVICE REP AT THE DEALER SAID THAT IT WAS A KNOWN PROBLEM AND NOT A SAFETY ISSUE SO I SHOULD CONTACT HONDA DIRECTLY. I HAVE MADE NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS TO BOTH HERB CHAMBERS HONDA IN BURLINGTON MA ,WHERE I PURCHASED THE CAR, AND HONDA CORPORATION AND THEY HAVE BOTH FLAT OUT REFUSED TO FIX THE PROBLEM BUT HAVE BOTH ADMITTED THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE BRAKES AGAIN REITERATING THAT IT'S "NOT A SAFETY ISSUE". THE DO NOT HAVE A TIME FRAME AS TO WHEN A FIX WILL BE FORTHCOMING. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED ON JUNE 21, 2008. THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT THE REAR BRAKES WERE SQUEALING. IN MAY OF 2009, HE TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER AND THEY REPLACED THE BRAKE PADS. HE BELIEVED THAT IT WAS TOO PREMATURE FOR THE BRAKE PADS TO BE REPLACED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 17,450 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 17,700.

AFTER 15,000 MILES OF MAJORITY HIGHWAY MILES THE OEM REAR BRAKES ON MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD EX-L 4 DOOR V6 WERE COMPLETELY WORN OUT. THE BRAKES WERE WORN ONLY ON THE INSIDE PAD. THE OUTSIDE PAD LOOKED ALMOST BRAND NEW. HONDA INFORMED ME THAT THIS IS NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR, BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN REAR BRAKES FAIL AFTER 150000 MILES ON ANY VEHICLE BEFORE. THE ORIGINAL COST FOR REPAIR WOULD HAVE BEEN $190, BUT THE SERVICE MANAGER ADMITTED THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE PAD AND LET ME WALK FOR ONLY $70. THE PARTS WERE REPLACED, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GO OUT JUST AS QUICK. THEY TOLD ME THAT THERE IS A FLAW IN THE DESIGN AND THAT HONDA IS ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM, BUT ALSO SAID IT IS NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR. *TR

ABNORMAL REAR BRAKE WEAR. REAR BRAKES WORE OUT AT 30,000 MILES. *TR

I HAVE A 2008 HONDA ACCORD WITH 28,000 MILES ON IT. WITH SUCH LOW MILEAGE, I HAD TO REPLACE TO REAR BRAKE PADS. THE DEALER TRIED TO TELL ME IT WAS MY DRIVING, WHICH I KNEW IT WASN'T. I FOUND AN INTERNET SITE THAT LISTS COMPLAINTS, AND JUST FROM THE ONE WEBSITE, THERE WERE 85 COMPLAINTS ABOUT PREMATURE REAR BRAKE PAD FAILURE ON THIS CAR. IT IS A KNOWN HONDA DEFECT! I CALLED AMERICAN HONDA AND THEY SAID THE COMPANY WAS WORKING ON A "FIX" BUT HAD NO OTHER INFORMATION. I WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR HONDA.COM FOR UPDATES. THIS IS A HONDA ISSUE THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF, AND I EXPECT TO BE REPAID FOR MY EXPENSES. HOPEFULLY MY DEALERSHIP WILL DO SOMETHING FOR ME, BUT I WON'T HOLD MY BREATH. I'M NOT SURE IF I CHECKED THE CORRECT BOX "SERVICE BRAKES, AIR" BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD THEM REFERRED TO AS THAT, BUT THIS COMPLAIN IS ABOUT MY REAR BRAKES. *TR THANK YOU.

2008 HONDA ACCORD BRAKES ARE WORN DOWN TO 1.6MM AFTER ONLY 16676 MILES. CAR IS IN PERFECT CONDITION AND IS WELL CARED FOR AND DRIVEN SAFELY. SEEMS LIKE A DESIGN PROBLEM WITH 2008 HONDA ACCORD REAR BRAKES. MANY COMPLAINTS ON THE INTERNET. REAR BRAKES SHOULD LAST 4 TIMES LONGER ?? *TR

I OWN A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. MY WIFE TOOK THE CAR INTO THE DEALERSHIP BECAUSE IT WAS MAKING A NOISE IN THE REAR. SHE WAS TOLD THE CAR NEEDED REAR BRAKES. THE CAR ONLY HAS 25,000 MILES ON IT. WHEN I TALKED TO THE DEALER, I WAS TOLD I WAS LUCKY TO GET 25,000 MILES AS HE IS REPLACING BRAKES AT 15,000. I WAS TOLD BY A HONDA MECHANIC THAT THE BRAKE ISSUE IS DUE TO THE PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT BEING INADVERTENTLY TIGHTENED BY THE CAR SUSPENSION. HE SAID HONDA IS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A FIX. I HAD TO PAY TO HAVE THE REAR BRAKES REPLACE, WHEN HONDA KNOWS THERE'S A PROBLEM. *TR

PREMATURE BRAKE WEAR ON A 2008 HONDA ACCORD LX. 25773 MILES ON CAR. I TOOK IT INTO THE DEALER FOR SQUEALING SOUND.. THEY SAID IT WAS BRAKE PADS WORN ON REAR BRAKES, AND A REAR ROTOR NEEDING REPLACEMENT. THEY SAID IT WAS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY, EVEN THOUGH ADMITTING OTHER PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT PREMATURE BRAKE PAD WEAR. I FEEL THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I PAID $347 ON REPAIRS FOR SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COVERED BECAUSE OF HONDA'S PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROBLEM BEFORE THEY EVEN SOLD THE CAR TO ME 8/28/08. *TR

HONDA PREMATURE REAR BRAKE WEAR. 2008 HONDA ACCORD 2-DOOR 4 CYLINDER AUTO TRANS. HAS 16,696 MILES AND REAR BRAKES WORE OUT. INNER PADS WERE METAL ON METAL ACCORDING TO REPAIR SHOP (PEP BOYS) THEY DID NOT WANT TO WORK ON THE VEHICLE AS THEY FELT THE REAR BRAKE CALIPERS WERE DEFECTIVE. THE SAID THE DEALER SHOULD REPLACE THE CALIPERS UNDER WARRANTY. TOOK TO DEALER NEXT MORNING ON AUG 19 2009. GOT A STORY ABOUT HOW IT IS NORMAL FOR REAR BRAKES TO WEAR OUT AT 16,000 MILES. THEY WOULD NOT COVER A SAFETY ISSUE UNDER WARRANTY. TOLD REAR BRAKES DO NOT LAST AS LONG AS FRONT BRAKES. TOLD INNER PADS ON THE REAR AXLE WEAR OUT FASTER THAN THE OUTER PADS DUE TO THIS REASON OR THAT REASON. DEALER EXPLAINED THAT THIS IS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY AND THEN CHARGED ME FOR REPLACING REAR BRAKES. I EXPECT THE CURRENT SET OF BRAKES TO ONLY LAST ANOTHER 16,000 MILES. RESEARCHING OTHER OWNERS ONLINE AND PERSONAL FRIENDS THIS IS A PERVASIVE PROBLEM. ALSO CAR MAGAZINE MOTOR TREND HAD THE SAME PROBLEM. HTTP://WWW.MOTORTREND.COM/ROADTESTS/ONEYEAR/112_0910_2008_HONDA_ACCORD_TEST_VERDICT/INDEX.HTML. *TR

DEFECTIVE REAR BRAKES ON 2008 HONDA ACCORD I PURCHASED A NEW 2008 HONDA ACCORD LAST MAY AND HAVE APPROXIMATELY 24,000 MILES ON IT. AFTER A LITTLE OVER ONE YEAR OF REGULAR HIGHWAY DRIVING MY REAR BRAKES BEGAN TO SQUEAL AND GRIND INCESSANTLY. MY HONDA DEALER ADMITTED THAT THE ACCORDS HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING PREMATURE WEAR ON THE REAR BRAKES BUT REFUSED TO SERVICE THIS AS A COVERED WARRANTY ISSUE. I CALLED AMERICAN HONDA AND THEY SIMPLY READ WHAT APPEARED TO BE A "CANNED" RESPONSE THAT THERE WERE NO RECALLS OR SERVICE BULLETINS AND THAT THIS WAS A "WEAR ITEM" THAT THE CUSTOMER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. AFTER CONDUCTING MY OWN RESEARCH ONLINE I HAVE COME ACROSS HUNDREDS OF SIMILAR COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER 2008 HONDA ACCORD INCLUDING MANY COMPLAINTS FILED WITH NHTSA. THE PROPER OPERATION OF A VEHICLES BRAKES IS CRITICAL TO DRIVER AND OCCUPANT SAFETY, AND HONDA REFUSES TO ADMIT TO OR RECTIFY WHAT IS CLEARLY A SYSTEMIC SAFETY ISSUE. I IMPLORE THE NHTSA TO INVESTIGATE THIS ISSUE AND TO RECURRENT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY TO RECTIFY THIS ISSUE FOR THE THOUSANDS OF HONDA ACCORD OWNERS WHO MAY BE DRIVING UNSAFE VEHICLES. *TR

BRAKES IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT AFTER 19,000 MILES. SERVICE MANAGER SAYS HE GETS 2 OR 3 CALLS/DAY ON THIS ISSUE AND WE ARE LUCKY THE BRAKES LASTED TO 19K. MOST ONLY LAST 15-17K. SERVICE MANAGER (AND COUNTLESS OTHERS FOUND ONLINE) HAVE MADE HONDA AWARE, BUT NO RECALL, NO NOTIFICATION TO CONSUMERS, NO COVERAGE UNDER BASIC OR EXTENDED WARRANTIES. IF THIS WAS PEELING PAINT, NO PROBLEM. THESE ARE BRAKES THAT LAST (ACCORDING TO SERVICE MANAGER) A LITTLE OVER A YEAR BEFORE REPLACEMENT WITH NORMAL DRIVING! 50% WEAR IN 6 MONTHS! HAVE NEVER OWNED ANY OTHER VEHICLE WITH THIS ISSUE. *TR