2017 Honda Pilot FUEL/PROPULSION SYSTEM

Fuel injection pump makes really loud noise and reduction of engine power. Took it to the dealer for diagnosis and was told the fuel pump needs a replacement. Have been waiting 2-3 weeks for parts, with no loaner or estimated timeline provided.

Our 2017 Honda Pilot was making some really strange noises under the hood so we took it in to our local Honda dealer service. Dealer said our low-pressure fuel pump needed to be replaced. It has now been nearly four months of Honda telling us the fuel pump replacement part is unavailable. We follow up with Honda weekly and they continue to give us an ETA date, which they push out every time, so the ETA is meaningless. They said we can drive our Pilot "as is" but cautioned us not to take it on a road trip, so we had to pay Honda a daily rate to rent a car from them. They would not provide us with a complimentary rental vehicle, even though this situation is out of our control and this fuel pump will be covered by the Power Terrain Warranty. I drive my three children in our Pilot and I feel it a safety hazard for me to drive it on the freeway when it could break down on us at any time, which would also cause a safety hazard on the highway. There was not ever any type of error code or auto failure alert for this fuel pump problem.

There is a strong smell of gasoline inside the cabin. It is very intermittent, but seems to happen most after it is warm and is restarted after sitting less than 1 hour like going in somewhere to shop or eat. Other times it has happened in the summer when idling the car with the air conditioning running for 10-15 minutes. It is not an exhaust smell, but unburnt gasoline. The dealer smelled it when I dropped it off, but couldn't find anything wrong. It has been happening for over a year. After several months we got a check engine light, it was an issue with the evaporative canister. An $1,100 repair was made outside of warranty. We hoped this would at least fix the issue. It did not fix it. The smell happens regardless of gas tank level and is not from over filling the tank.

2017 HONDA PILOT, EMISSIONS LIGHT CAME ON AROUND 50,000. SERVICE LIGHT CAME ON AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS. CODES WERE PO301, PO219A. HONDA SERVICE CONFIRMED 2016 PILOTS AND SOME 2017 PILOTS RECEIVED AN EXTENDED WARRANTY, COVERING REPAIR OF THE FUEL INJECTORS. THIS SPECIFIC VIN WAS OUT OF RANGE. MECHANIC HAD TO REPLACE THE FUEL INJECTORS TO REMEDY THE ISSUE. HONDA AMERICA ADVISED ME TO DO THE REPAIR AND SEE IF A WARRANTY IS EXTENDED.

AT 50K MILES SEVERAL WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON (VSA, CHECK ENGINE, TRAC CONTROL, BRAKES). DEALERSHIP SCAN INDICATED SEVERAL MISFIRE DTCS AND P219A. INFORMED THAT THIS WAS A KNOWN ISSUE AND REQUIRED REPLACEMENT OF ENTIRE FUEL RAIL SYSTEM COSTING ME OVER $1,700.

OCCASIONALLY WHEN STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT THE CAR'S AUTO ENGINE CUT OFF DURING IDLE WILL NOT RESTART AS IT SHOULD WHEN I TRY TO GO. I MUST THEN PUT THE CAR IN PARK, WAIT 2-3 MINUTES, THEN IT WILL FINALLY RESTART. I TOOK IT TO MY DEALERSHIP WHO TOLD ME THEY WERE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND DID NOT KNOW HOW IT COULD BE FIXED. STALLING AT A RED LIGHT WHILE CARS ARE BEEPING IS DANGEROUS AND CAN CAUSE AN ACCIDENT OR ROAD RAGE. PLEASE HELP.

EMISSIONS WARNING LIGHT CAME ON WHILE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD ABOUT 30MPH. CODE READER SHOWS CODE P0430.

MY 'EMISSIONS SYSTEM ISSUE' LIGHT COMES ON ALL THE TIME. THE LIGHT COMES ON MOSTLY WHILE THE CAR IS IN MOTION I FIRST HAD THIS CHECK LIGHT COME IN WITHIN MONTHS OF OWNING THE CAR. HONDA HAS FIXED THIS EVERY YEAR SINCE. I PUT ABOUT 30,000 MILES/YR ON THE CAR AND DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO CONTINUALLY BRING THE CAR IN FOR SERVICE. DURING THE LAST SERVICE FOR THIS ISSUE (MY CAR WAS OUT OF WARRANTY) AND I WAS TOLD IT WOULD COST ALMOST $2000 TO FIX. THEY AGREED TO COVER 75% OF THE COST AS THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM EVERY YEAR. WITHIN DAYS OF LEAVING THE DEALERSHIP, THE LIGHT CAME ON AGAIN. THE 2017 PILOT IS A LEMON. THIS IS SOME FUEL INJECTOR ISSUE. IT COULD CAUSE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT AS THE ULTIMATE RESULT OF THIS ISSUE IS ENGINE MISFIRE... I HAVE HAD MOMENTS OF MISFIRE WHEN ENTERING AN INTERSECTION AND COULD HAVE CAUSED A SERIOUS ACCIDENT. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO PERMANENT FIX FOR THIS ISSUE. THIS HONDA JUST FIXES IT AND IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL TO THE OWNER UNTIL YOU ARE OUT OF WARRANTY. THIS IS INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING. I LOVE THE CAR, BUT THIS IS DISAPPOINTING AS I HAVE THE PILOT ELITE WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE CARS THEY OFFER. THE LOCAL DEALERSHIP HAS BEEN GOOD ABOUT IT. HOWEVER, I FEAR THE NEXT TIME I RETURN TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS ISSUE, THEY MAY NOT BE AS ACCOMMODATING.

ENGINE HESITATION AT LOW SPEEDS, MORE DRAMATIC GOING UPHILL.

CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AT 43,000 MILES. THEN EVERY OTHER LIGHT ON DASH CAME ON WHILE DRIVING. ERROR CODE FOR FUEL INJECTORS AND HONDA DEALER CHARGING 2,000 TO REPLACE INJECTORS. WIFE WILL NOT DRIVE THE PILOT NOW DUE TO INJECTOR ISSUES. VEHICLE IS ONLY 3 YEARS OLD! KNOWN ISSUE WITH MY MODEL YEAR PILOT AND HONDA IS SILENT ON RECALL. DEALER CAN'T EVEN FIX THE ISSUE DUE TO NOT HAVING THE PARTS (BACK ORDERED)!

ENGINE LIGHT ONES ON...CODES SAY IT IS AN EMISSION PROBLEMS. IT IS THE INJECTORS. THE DEALER SAYS THEY REPAIR ONE A WEEK! THIS SHOULD BE A RECAPITULATE,

EMISSION SYSTEM PROBLEM.. P0430 CODE.. 45K .. DEALERSHIP HAD TO REPLACE FUEL INJECTOR KIT FOR $1940.. NOT COVERED UNDER FACTORY WARRANTY OR POWERTRAIN.. HONDA AMERICA SAYS THEY WON'T REIMBURSE EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A KNOW ISSUE WITH THE 2016 MODEL.. MY VEHICLE FALLS OUTSIDE THE RANGE OF VIN WHERE THE ISSUE WAS NOTED BUT THIS IS NOT BY CHANCE I HAVE THE SAME ISSUE AS NUMEROUS OTHERS ARE.. HONDA NEEDS TO ADMIT THIS IS A FAULT WITH THE FUEL PROPULSION SYSTEM AND COVER THESE REPLACEMENTS ON LOW MILEAGE VEHICLES. HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED!!

EMISSIONS LIGHT WENT ON AND I SMELLED GAS. BROUGHT THE CAR IN FOR SERVICE AT 23,391 MILES. FUEL INJECTORS NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM WITH THE PILOT, ACCORDING TO THE SERVICE MANAGER, WHO STATED "LUCKILY IT WAS STILL UNDER WARRANTY."

TOOK MY HONDA PILOT ELITE 2017 IN AFTER HAVING THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON DISPLAYING "EMISSIONS SERVICE PROBLEM". IT WAS DIAGNOSED AT OUR HONDA DEALERSHIP AS P0430 AND NEED ALL FUEL INJECTORS REPLACES. MY SUV HAD ONLY 39,000 MILES ON IT AND WAS OUTSIDE THE MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY BY 3,000 MILES. THE REPAIR ESTIMATE WAS $2,100. I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS THE VEHICLE IS ONLY 2 YEARS OLD. I SAW ONLINE THIS WAS A COMMON ISSUE WITH BOTH 2016 AND 2017 PILOTS WHICH IS CONCERNING AS HONDA HAS NOT MADE ANY RECALLS. IN THE END, OUR DEALERSHIP CALLED HONDA AND GOT HONDA TO COVER MOST OF THE REPAIR WITH THE DEALERSHIP COVERING THE REMAINDER. I AM NERVOUS WITH THE QUALITY OF HONDA VEHICLES AND EVEN THAT THE NEW FUEL INJECTORS WILL ONLY HAVE A LIFE OF 40,000 MILES AND I WILL BE IN THE SAME SPOT 2 YEARS FROM NOW. HONDA NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS FULLY AND A RECALL IS NEEDED.

VEHICLE FUEL PIPE RUPTURED DURING START-UP ON TWO OCCASIONS, LEADING TO FUEL LEAKS IN ENGINE COMPARTMENT AND ABOVE FUEL TANK WHILE DRIVING AWAY FROM PARKED POSITION. RUPTURES WERE ATTRIBUTED TO RODENTS DAMAGING PLASTIC FUEL PIPE SECTIONS. FAILURE #1: 7,232 MILES, PLASTIC PIPE ELBOW HIGH UP IN ENGINE COMPARTMENT. FAILURE #2: 15,624 MILES, PLASTIC TUBE ABOVE FUEL TANK. HONDA WRAPPED REPLACEMENT PARTS WITH RODENT PEPPER TAPE BUT DOES NOT OFFER A GUARANTEED SOLUTION TO THIS VULNERABILITY. THE FUEL PIPE LEADING FROM THE FUEL TANK TO ENGINE APPEARS TO BE MOSTLY ALUMINUM WITH PLASTIC CONNECTORS AT THE ENDS.THE FUEL TANK UNDER THE MIDDLE OF THE CAR AND FUEL HOSE BRACKET IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT BOTH PROVIDE PERCHING PLACES FOR MICE.MICE NIBBLE ON THE NEARBY PLASTIC FUEL PIPES AND THE PIPES SUDDENLY RUPTURE WHEN THE FUEL SYSTEM IS PRESSURIZED FUEL SPILLS IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT AND ABOVE THE EXHAUST SYSTEM ONTO THE GROUND UNTIL THE ENGINE IS STOPPED. DAMAGED ETFE PLASTIC FUEL TUBE MANUFACTURED BY SANOH FOR HONDA IS AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION UPON REQUEST.

PLS. DO INVESTIGATE HONDA PILOT 2017 AND SOME 2016 SYSTEM EMISSIONS FAILURE AT 50K MILES. IT APPEARS THEY HAVE FUEL INJECTORS PROBLEM.

AROUND 30000 MILES, THE CAR STARTED SHOWING SLGNS OF SLUGGISHNESS. CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED TO THE DEALERSHIP DURING ROUTINE MAINTENANCE WERE MET WITH COMMENTS THAT THEY DIDN'T SEE AN ISSUES. THEN AT ABOUT 45000 MILES, THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON INDICATING AN EMISSIONS PROBLEM (P0430: CATALYST SYSTEM EFFICIENCY BELOW THRESHOLD (BANK 2)). AFTER INVESTIGATION BY THE DEALER, THEY SAID THAT THE FUEL INJECTORS NEED TO BE REPLACED AT A SIGNIFICANT COST. AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH I HAVE READ THAT THIS IS A COMMON COMPLAINT FROM THIS COHORT OF VEHICLE OWNERS.

MY CAR SHOWED UP WARNING MESSAGE "EMISSIONS SYSTEM PROBLEM" WHEN IN MOTION AND IT IS REALLY SCARY AS THE VEHICLE WAS HAVING PASSENGERS (INCLUDING KIDS) AND IN THE HIGHWAY DRIVING. I COULDN'T FOCUS ON WHAT TO DO BUT RATHER STOP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. THEN I WAS ABLE TO DO BIT OF GOOGLE AND GOT TO KNOW THIS IS A COMMON ISSUE WITH THE 2016-17 HONDA PILOT AND I CAN DRIVE THE CAR TO HOME WITH THE WARNING. CAR IS HAVING 33K MILES ON IT AND STILL UNDER THE WARRANTY. IT HAS ALL THE RECOMMENDED MAINTENANCE WORK DONE ACCORDING TO THE MANUFACTURER RECOMMENDATIONS. AFTER I GOT THE WARNING MESSAGE AT NIGHT, THE VERY NEXT DAY I DROVE IT TO THE HONDA AGENT AND THEY CHECKED THE CAR AND THEY MENTIONED THERE IS A SOFTWARE UPDATE NEEDED TO BE DONE AND NEEDS INJECTOR REPLACEMENT. THEY ALSO MENTIONED THEY ARE GETTING PILOTS WITH THIS ERROR MORE OFTEN NOW AND I AM NOT ALONE. THE ERROR CODE IT SHOWS IS 'P0430'. A BRAND NEW VEHICLE WITH JUST 33K MILES GETTING INJECTOR REPLACEMENT IS NOT WHAT IS MENTIONED IN THE OWNERS MANUAL. IF THIS IS GETTING AGAIN AND AGAIN THE COST OF OWNING THE CAR SEEMS REALLY EXPENSIVE AND WORTHLESS. SPECIALLY WITH THE ISSUES OF EMISSIONS THE CAR MAY STALL ANYWHERE AND CREATE A SAFETY HAZARD FOR THE PASSENGERS AND OTHERS ON THE ROAD. I WOULD RECOMMEND HONDA COMES IN AND FIX THIS ISSUE IN ALL THE 2016-17 PILOT CARS EVEN OUTSIDE THE BASIC WARRANTY AS A RECALL WITHOUT PUTTING THEIR CUSTOMERS IN TROUBLE. THANKS.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 HONDA PILOT. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE ODOR OF FUEL COULD BE DETECTED INSIDE THE CABIN OF THE VEHICLE. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER (WILDE HONDA, 1603 E MORELAND BLVD, WAUKESHA, WI 53186), BUT THE FAILURE COULD NOT BE DUPLICATED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 1,500.

THE EMISSION LIGHT CONTINUALLY COMES ON IN THE TRUCK THEY MAKE IT GO OFF AFTER A MONTH OR 2 BACK ON AGAIN.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 HONDA PILOT. WHILE ATTEMPTING TO FILL UP THE FUEL TANK, THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT ICE WAS LODGED IN BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND FUEL NOZZLES. THE CONTACT HAD TO CHIP AWAY THE ICE TO FILL UP THE TANK. THE DEALER (BOCH HONDA, 279 PROVIDENCE HWY, NORWOOD, MA 02062) WAS AWARE OF THE FAILURE AND STATED THAT HONDA WAS WORKING ON SOMETHING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS REGARDING THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED, BUT COULD NOT ASSIST. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 800. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.

THE CAPLESS FUEL FILLER NECK HAS A DESIGN FLAW THAT ALLOWS WATER TO GET BEHIND THE OUTERMOST FLAP. IN COLDER CLIMATES, THIS WATER CAN FREEZE BETWEEN THE FLAPS, PREVENTING THE FUEL FLAP FROM OPENING, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A GAS PUMP IN TO REFUEL THE VEHICLE. THE ONLY SOLUTIONS ARE TO WAIT FOR IT TO GET ABOVE FREEZING (IF YOU HAVE THAT LUXURY WHILE WAITING TO REFUEL), MANUALLY APPLYING A HEAT SOURCE (KIND OF DANGEROUS WITH GAS), OR TRYING TO MANUALLY CHIP AWAY AT THE ICE WITHOUT BREAKING ANYTHING.